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- Aug. 7th, 2007 at 2:49 PM
I can't add anything more substantial to what
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leucocrystal has already said here. Except to mention that, as a recovering Soviet, I have a huge problem with censorship. It makes me uncomfortable. I especially take issue with the idea that sweeping measures across the board are a good way to rid it of some, admittedly, real offenders. Words "baby" and "bathwater" come to mind. Lifted the below from
juls_chuls. Thank you for the funny!(And the scary!) :) </form>
I call a foul! As much as I would love to discover fresh air, real life, and true love (in that order? why?), I contest the notion that it's the LJ that keeps me from such discoveries! LOL.
And, oh, I can't believe that sweet
earth2mars would do such a thing! Let alone for some lame-ass spoilers about Luke's father! I mean, who doesn't know who Luke's father is! And who still cares? LOL.1. Random thing number 1. The end of LoVe that, thankfully, wasn't.
Jason Dohring gave an interview to gave an interview to IGN.com. It's delightful as always, and has fun info on his upcoming "Moonlight" series. But the heart-breaking tidbit is this:
IGN TV: At the end, what were you hearing was going on with Veronica? There was a lot of different things being said about it returning or not returning, including the possible FBI idea.
Dohring: Yeah, totally. Rob came to us and said that it was pretty much done; there was about a 10% chance of it coming back, and there was maybe a 40% chance of it going on to a different show. He had talked about if that idea continued that there might even be a character arc for me in that, which would have been fun.
IGN TV: In the FBI incarnation?
Dohring: Yeah, because I think he was talking about some completely irredeemable act, or something like that, that I would perform. Something like that - just get me in a couple of episodes. So that would have been fun! I just loved working with Kristen, you know?
Oh, Jason. Whether he is utterly gullible or just a class act, I love the fact that he -- despite the shitty treatment he received from the show-runner and the star, and the even shittier treatment his character got from them, refuses to say anything less-than-nice and enthusiastic about the whole VM experience. Some say you are drinking the Kool-Aid, JD. If that's true, I want some, as well. I admire your refusal to be poisoned.
As it is, Rob Thomas is clearly a sociopath hell bent on destroying his best -- albeit accidental -- creation, and it's information like this that makes me ecstatic we never got a Season 4. In any incarnation. In which Logan would have only been used in a couple of episodes, only to commit a completely irredeemable act (And I wonder what that would have been by Rob Thomas' standards. We already know he thinks rape is perfectly excusable. Was he going to have Logan murder Mac and use her body as a weapon with which to bash Veronica's headlights in? I'm morbidly curious to know.).
Whatever. It's over, it ended on an open, hopeful note, and Logan walked away with dignity. And no amount of lame comic-booking and/or movie pipe dreaming on the part of RT will change that for me.
1. Random thing number 2. I had a show.
Yeah, yeah, it's been a month, but I was so sleep-deprived, I'm only now waking up.
So, here are some samples. Mostly for the few people who expressed interest. :)
Okay, I think I bored people enough today. Off to do some actual work. :)
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You are really talented
I love it that you caught the mood of the painting with the girl. Whimsical but sad describes what I was going for perfectly!
Thank you so much, again!
Jason Dohring - From interviews, it seems to me he is just a class act, very genuine and grateful.
Your artwork- Wow, you have such great detail and vibrant colours in your pieces. For the first work, I love the expression on the faces, especially the little boy. The second one has a gentle breeze and calmness in it. The third one is an interesting angle of the inside looking out and the last one is playful.
Yes, me too. I tend to miss all the upheavals. But this has been going on for a while and seems to have touched a lot of people. I'm just grateful to those who explained it to me. :)
From interviews, it seems to me he is just a class act, very genuine and grateful.
He really is. The fact that he is not just affecting niceness for the sake of being polite and keeping on everyone's good side, but really is that nice I find so appealing. Whether it's his beliefs or a personality trait, he does genuinely want to see the best and most interesting in people. I kind of envy that quality. :)
Thank you so much for your kind words! I love your take on each painting. It always makes me so happy when people perceive a mood or a feeling in my work. Because that's what I ultimately want: to connect, to make a viewer feel. It's not about depiction so much as it is about evocation. If that makes any sense. :) So, thank you!
Ahahaha!
Gorgeous work!!!
And thank you so much! :)
Oh, and I'm still making my peace with the VM decision, partially because I like to pretend that the FBI version ends with Logan walking back into her life in a POSITIVE manner at, say, the end of the first episode, proving that he's what's missing in her fabulous career existence. Yeah, I'm a little delusional, but living in my own special world keeps me happy.
I love that sign! Made me crack up on the spot and made me want to paint it somewhere. :) The Boston Terrier puppy belongs to another artist, a friend of mine. Her name is Lulu (the Terrier, not the friend, lol), and she was such a model-diva! She demanded dog biscuits, her own dressing room (a fluffy pillow with huge checkers) and constant petting. I could barely get through the sketch. LOL.
Re: VM thing. You know, I thought about it, and I am not as upset as I initially was. The thing is, as much as I dislike Rob Thomas, and as much as I believe he is a reactive, petty bastard, I honestly don't think he was that hell-bent on destroying Logan (or LoVe for that matter). The final episode of season 3 was almost done shooting when the impending cancellation was decided on by the network. So RT did what was uppermost on his agenda: scrambled for possible ways to keep Veronica on the air. Veronica, as his main creation, is very dear to him, and that's understandable. He had only so much money to shoot that pilot/presentation FBI thing. He needed KB, could afford a few, less expensive people, and some new sets. I highly doubt he had more than the pilot planned out. Or any kind of a romantic arc built for the new version. What he knew without a doubt was that neither CW nor WBTV would sign on any kind of a VM without Logan (in both quarters the character and JD had a lot of fans, but, more importantly, there was awareness of the character's popularity, and the show needed all the viewers it could get). I don't know if Rob was brain-storming when he talked to Jason, or if he was really trying to twist Logan back into the badness. I have no clue. But I watched the final 5 episodes of the show, and, as much as I hated all the Pizzing, I could see a clear picture emerging. And that was: Logan is the one who gets Veronica. Completely. Good and bad. Logan vs. Piz, Bad Boy vs. Good Guy, Veronica's (and a few other people's) assumptions and judgment vs. reality. In other words, LoVe was what it was all about, and in the final scene it all was brought together to a thundering conclusion. The one that was season-long in the making. I have no doubt that, had there been season 4 (not the FBI turd, but the real one), Logan and Veronica would have gotten back together, and this time, it would have been her who had worked for it. Entering the new dynamic that emerged in that final ep: Logan reclaiming his dignity, standing up for her and to her; Veronica seeing him with the new eyes, finally and truly letting him into her life. Yes, I'm a romantic, and your point...? :)
So, yeah, this whole "irredeemable act" thing, as disheartening as it sounds, was an afterthought and has nothing to do with what this relationship we love so much was, or what these characters were or what they meant to us. VM ended on a very good note for Logan and on a hopeful, even joyful one for LoVe.
Eh, sorry for the unsolisited long reply. LOL.
And, once again, thank you so much!
Also, um... YOUR ART IS GORGEOUS. I really envy your color sense, which is something I don't think I share, as much as I'd like to -- they're so vivid and pleasing to the eye. You have some really interesting ways of composing subject matter too, which is really fresh and nice to see. I hope the show went well! :)
Hell, yeah. And it's not just this situation I'm basing it on. Even when he was told flat out (in a video interview, no less) about KB's less than flattering comments about Logan, and you could see him visibly deflate, JD still managed to stay positive, complement KB and not take the bait in any way. That is class. It's not some delusional refusal to believe that someone doesn't like him or his character. It's a way of separating that dislike and not letting it color anything: not your own perception of your work, not your relationship with those who might dislike you, not the way you speak about people and situations. It isn't as if JD is blind to everything. It was very clear to people at the London Blowout that he wasn't happy about the way Logan was written in season 3. But you listen to his interviews and he is still enthusiastic, positive and complementary. Because it's his job, and because he is not the person to take some petty umbrage and spill it all over the media, no matter what his private feelings.
Sure, he certainly seems to view the positives in any situation (whether or not that's in his best interests all the time is another matter), and such overwhelming optimism is something I definitely don't share and find difficult to understand, but it doesn't make me admire him any less.
Especially because I, sadly, find it difficult, too, I admire him all the more. I tend to be -- shudder -- more like Veronica in that respect: inherently cynical and suspicious. And not always willing to see the good in people and situations. But I wish I could. Because it's a better way to be, even if, as you said, it's not always in your best interest. Then again, as the very Veronica should be able to attest (once she acquires a little self-awareness), the constant negativity is more costly and detrimental to your health. :)
Rob can fanwank anything he likes; it won't change what's on film.
Indeed. Honestly, who knows what goes on in this guy's brain?! He is so schizophrenic in his writing and decision-making, there's no following it. But what's on screen is staying there, and, thankfully, that was the end. :)
And thank you so, so much for your kind words! It means a lot coming from you, because you are, by rights, an artist. I especially love it that you commented on the compositions, because they are a bit different and non-linear. I sort of try to break dimensions and shift vantage points. Because I always feel there's more than one way to observe. So, thank you for noticing that! *Hugs!* :)
And I know I've mentioned this before, but I suppose I just wish I'd recognized the signs earlier, at the time; when Roz and I talked with him last December at the Run/Walk, the lack of his enthusiasm about the show was definitely evident. We didn't push, of course (and it's not like that was hard to do; JD will talk to you about literally whatever, lol), but it didn't strike me until later, when we finally saw the episodes that had been filming at that time, that that was our earliest warning sign of the quality drop that was to come. JDoh is certainly no dummy.
Heh, you and me both; I think that's actually why I identified with the Veronica we used to love (of S1); I'm no stranger to being an outcast among peers, nor voicing my own (often sarcastic and/or cynical) opinions without care for the repercussions of speaking my mind. I think that's where a lot of my admiration for Jason comes in, just like with you; I'm constantly in awe of his poise and politeness, which he somehow manages to balance with such enthusiasm and earnestness, without ever coming across as false.
And not always willing to see the good in people and situations. But I wish I could. Because it's a better way to be, even if, as you said, it's not always in your best interest.
Very true. Whether or not I'll ever achieve that sort of personality balance is pretty questionable; I've been the way that I am for the majority of my life, and people aren't often apt to change so drastically. Plus, considering the field I'm about to go into (which is basically a boys' club, though women are definitely starting to represent a larger percentage; about 90% of my classmates have been women for the past three years), defensiveness is more likely to help me than anything else.
I especially love it that you commented on the compositions, because they are a bit different and non-linear. I sort of try to break dimensions and shift vantage points. Because I always feel there's more than one way to observe.
Spoken like a true visionary! I always admire artists who are willing to take such risks, as I've never really been one of them. I'd like to be, but I just don't seem to have the knack for branching out in such a way (especially now, since I rarely do art anymore). By all means, feel free to share more photos in the future! :)
It's on "Watch with Kristen," if you can stomach ... well, Kristen. I only seldom can. Her inane chatter, her utter nothing-ness and gushing... Meh. LOL. But she does love Jason, and Jason is Jason, so it made it okay. :) Anyway, I don't have the link,but it's on E!Online, Watch with Kristen, searchable by "Jason Dohring." :)
he's not as clueless as so many people seem to think he is. I'm constantly in awe of his poise and politeness, which he somehow manages to balance with such enthusiasm and earnestness, without ever coming across as false.
That's the wonder of it: he is absolutely sincere. Knowing what he knows, realizing what he must have realized by the end of it, feeling sadness and loss, he still has genuine enthusiasm and respect for the project, the people involved, etc. I don't claim to know his thought process, but it's as if for Jason, none of this is about him. Or even about Logan. He can step aside and say that, even if some people dislike him, dislike his character, and say and do certain things, it doesn't change his admiration or respect for what and who they are. Because it's still VM and it's still something that he loved. Sigh.
Plus, considering the field I'm about to go into (which is basically a boys' club, though women are definitely starting to represent a larger percentage; about 90% of my classmates have been women for the past three years), defensiveness is more likely to help me than anything else.
You are absolutely right. Given the field, and given the mentality, your best defense are your instincts and, sometimes, your worst assumptions. It may sound uncharitable, but we are talking about your life and your future, and if you end up being wrong about someone every now and then and getting a pleasant surprise, well, then I'm sure you'll be only too glad to apologize. But in the meantime, your guard is your survival. It's that kind of a job. (And now I am even more worried about you! Great! LOL.).
Thank you so much again! I love your take on my work! :) And don't be so sure about yourself. You are 20, and who knows when or if you might want to do art again. When I was 20 (I make myself sound like a grandma, don't I? Giggle. Honestly, I'm not THAT old!) I was convinced I'll be a book illustrator and I haven't even picked up a single tube of oil paint. I was doing pen and black ink drawings. :)
Word on Jason. He just seems to have a pretty high default level of respect for just about everyone and everything, and it seems to take a lot to knock those opinions down.
Given the field, and given the mentality, your best defense are your instincts and, sometimes, your worst assumptions.
Very true. As they say in the business, "we only catch the stupid ones," and whenever I go to trial, 99% of the time I'll be testifying on behalf of my findings against a guilty person (one of the perks -- I'll never have to be a juror; knowing the legal system, I'm automatically biased to believe that if someone actually makes it to trial, they're guilty). I think it's probably a fortunate thing I'm not interested in dating at the moment (and probably never in getting married and certainly not in ever having children), because it's pretty much a universal acknowledgment that these attitudes in life are what give cops (and others in the law enforcement field) the highest divorce rate of any profession. Go us!
Don't you worry about me, dear. I've always been very adept at taking care of myself, and, well... Whatever happens, happens. :)
I'd like to think I'll pick up art more regularly again. I actually eyed a job offer the other day as a chalkboard artist for a local food store, but it demanded too high a volume for someone who's hardly drawn anything in the past year. I know I'd like to make that VM art piece someday, lol. And man, that reminds me of that long-ass fic I never finished... makes me wonder if I really will abandon it after all.
one of the perks -- I'll never have to be a juror
That's a perk I would love (though not at the expense of doing the job you do, lol). It's not that I'm not civicly minded. It's that I abhor sitting in judgment literally. I can't make myself be responsible for the outcome of anyone's life. Good or bad. And that's just the pedestrian stuff, like civil cases. Forget criminal ones: I'll be the one sticking fingers in my ears so I don't have to hear about it.... Eh, I guess I'm not so civic-minded after all. Sigh. Sad truth is, I'm a wimp. And have a hyper imagination where I immidiately project the awful stuff. I can just about handle it on TV. Real life stuff scares me beyond belief. And then there's the fear of making the wrong call. What if we sentense someone and they aren't guilty after all. It's not like that hasn't happened... Long story short, every time I'm called to jurie duty, I disqualify myself pretty quickly. :)
because it's pretty much a universal acknowledgment that these attitudes in life are what give cops (and others in the law enforcement field) the highest divorce rate of any profession. Go us!
*Giggle. That's the company spirit! :) I do understand that, though. Given the general stress of the job compounded by the professionally-induced disillusionment with the human nature, It's a shock to me some law enforcement professionals acutally make it work.
Anyway, so sorry for disappearing, and I'll try to be a better correspondent. I have to catch up on a lot. :)
*Hugs!
You know, if you really wanted to not have to sit on a jury again, just take a basic Admin of Justice class. I'm totally serious. One class that teaches you how the law really works, and you're biased for life, and that's probably all you'd have to say. They don't want someone who has preconceived notions about the process -- god forbid jurors actually be educated! *shakes head* Not that I'm complaining, I have other things to worry more about.
I wonder how any law enforcement professionals ever make it work, either. Funnily enough, my favourite professor, Tina, has been married to her husband Graham (who's a D.E.A. agent) for years, and they seem to be quite happy. They remain, to this day, the one happy couple in the field I've ever met though, so perhaps they're the exception to the rule, LOL.
You are? I'm the one who's terrible with it these days! LOL. Sigh. But at least we forgive each other when that happens, because we are in similar time crunches right now. :)
They don't want someone who has preconceived notions about the process -- god forbid jurors actually be educated! *shakes head*
God, how sad is that?! Also, so true. I would like to take that class, I just don't know when I can fit it into my life. Sort of a catch 22. :) But that's a very good idea, and I can definitely find some time to look into it. Thank you! :)
Your favorite professor may be the exception, but she is also the proof that it's possible! :) Who knows, really. The odds of any couple in any walk of life making it are so random. But of course stressful jobs don't help at all. Stressful jobs dealing with the worst of human nature are even less of a help. Oh, well. :)
Re: all this brouhahah. I seriously have no idea what's going on. I never read the posts left by the LJ People.
Re: JD. *Sigh.* Thank goodness we didn't get a season 4; I would have been crushed. However, I will say this, perhaps RT just really wanted the fans to quit their love of LoVe and this would be the only way we'd accept a show w/o Logan on it. Sad. Maybe JD's "koolaid drinking" behavior is really just his own desire to have Logan do something other than wait around for Veronica and cry into his sleeves. *Shrugs.* Maybe he was looking forward to really doing something awful b/c then at least Logan would be doing SOMETHING.
Re: Your show. GORGEOUS. So much depth and texture. My gosh. There's so much to see in each of these--CONGRATULATIONS!
Yeah, all this brouhaha with LJ went right over my head. But when I actually investigated a bit, it made me uncomfortable. I am not a paying customer here, but if I had a payed account I'd be seriously considering taking myself off elsewhere. Sigh.
Maybe JD's "koolaid drinking" behavior is really just his own desire to have Logan do something other than wait around for Veronica and cry into his sleeves. *Shrugs.* Maybe he was looking forward to really doing something awful b/c then at least Logan would be doing SOMETHING.
LOL. That's a good point. I am happy Logan went out with the "bang"! From people who attended London Blowout and saw Jason we know that he really wasn't happy about season 3. Sigh. But the amazing thing is, he blamed himself! He thought his acting wasn't up to par. Oh, man, Jason! Your acting was what saved so much of that season! :) He is like that, though. Even unhappy, he would rather place the blame at his own feet. Never said a bad or uncharitable word about anyone involved with the show, no matter what. That is class.
I am feeling better about it now, though. I really don't think anymore that Rob Thomas was hell-bent on destroying LoVe or Logan. RT is a borderline sociopath and his idea of an "interesting" relationship is "bloodshed, lives lost," etc. He probably thought it would be cool. Who knows. The main thing for me is that it ended on a hopeful note. :)
Thank you, dear! I appreciate your kind words about my work so much! *Hugs!* :)